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S2E02 - Networking through Philanthropy with Drew of Winner's Award Group

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Discover the transformative power of collaboration as we chat with Drew from Winner's Award Group, a dynamic voice in the world of promotional and awards innovation. Drew shares how his company evolved from its golf-centric roots to become a key partner for nonprofits such as Four Kids and Children's Harbor, blending business with philanthropy. Learn how strategic alliances, like those formed through the Man Up Golf Tournament, breathe life into community values and amplify the reach of charitable organizations.

Explore the uplifting stories behind nonprofit initiatives that change lives, such as the camp created by General Schwartzkopf and Paul Newman for children with illnesses. These heartwarming programs offer more than themed weeks; they provide mental health support and unforgettable experiences, like receiving handcrafted bears, which leave lasting impressions. Understand the challenges nonprofits face, from resource scarcity to visibility issues, and the innovative business-like strategies they can adopt to forge partnerships with for-profit entities for greater impact.

Join us as we delve into the art of networking through podcasting, with insights inspired by golf coach Sean Kicker. Discover how blending golf knowledge with networking know-how opens new avenues for connection and opportunity. Our conversation doesn't stop there—we also dive into a diverse range of topics with Vince Bell in Podcast Twins, from scientific debates to conspiracy theories. Witness the career-enhancing potential of charitable work, especially for young people, and hear personal anecdotes on using sports coaching as a bridge to community service and lifelong relationships.


Andrew (Drew) DiAlberto
https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewdialberto/
WINNER'S AWARD GROUP
https://winnersawardgroup.com/


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Chris Baker:

Welcome to Visual Eyes, the podcast where collaboration fuels change. I'm your host, chris Baker, and each week we'll explore incredible connections between nonprofits, businesses and the community. This is a space where we highlight inspiring partnerships, uncover strategies for creating meaningful impact and share stories that show how working together can make all the difference. Whether you're a nonprofit leader, a business owner or someone just passionate about building connections, this podcast is for you. So welcome back to another episode of , where we work on collaborations with nonprofits. So we're bringing on for-profit businesses and other nonprofits that collaborate with nonprofits. We want to help them succeed. We want to help them grow. So that's our whole mission here at Visual Eyes. Today, I have Drew from winning awards.

Drew DiAlberto:

Winner's awards Winner's awards.

Chris Baker:

Yeah, all right, tell me a little bit more.

Drew DiAlberto:

Well, as far as the business, goes Winner's. Award Group's been around for about 45 years. It started in the golf world, so promotional items, awards, basically anything you could put a logo on at a private country club that was their niche, and about 21 years ago the current owners bought it from them and then they grew the corporate side.

Drew DiAlberto:

So now, instead of 70 or 80% of business being in golf, it's now golf, it's now tennis and other racket sports. And then you know professional services, construction, we do a lot of trade show and event work and then, of course, we have the nonprofits.

Chris Baker:

So we, you know, not that we have not enough to do.

Drew DiAlberto:

We shoot a couple of podcasts out of the showroom and just had an event the other day for event planners, with another guest of yours coming up, rachel Sherman from TSS photography. She and I hosted an event in our showroom and fed everybody and showcased some of the sources that we have for different events. We do work with a lot of non-profits, which is why you and I originally got introduced.

Chris Baker:

It was a sad moment that I had to miss that event that you guys had.

Drew DiAlberto:

The pulled pork sandwiches were excellent. I made them myself, so I'm biased.

Chris Baker:

Both of my kids requested those for their birthday again this year, so I know I'm doing okay, okay yeah well, next time we meet, hopefully you might have a little extra and I can give that a shot. We can do that.

Drew DiAlberto:

My back deck is open. We got some cigars and some scotch and some tequila out there to sip on and we'll take care of you, chris excellent, excellent.

Chris Baker:

So, like like I just mentioned about the show, it's really about giving non-profits the next leg up, the next step that can really help them along their journey, and I really want to make sure that there's a connection with the for-profits that are out there or another non nonprofit that could benefit or help them or benefit from them. So, part of that collaboration, what are the? What are some of the nonprofits that you've had the pleasure of working with and connecting with?

Drew DiAlberto:

Yeah, I mean we just we just started working with four kids, which is a foster care charity here in Fort Lauderdale, actually down the street from you, that, uh, you know they, they, um, are looking to do some really nice favors for one of their events in February called Galentines. So we're working with them, we're actually sending them some samples of different things that they can do and they've got a couple of cool ideas. But I can't let the cat out of the bag quite yet. Uh, we just did the Children's Harbor and man Up golf tournaments.

Drew DiAlberto:

Children's Harbor is another foster care facility and we actually did 85% of the swag. We did the awards, we did their T-shirts that they gave out, we did their quarter zips embroidered, and then we also did and this is the first time we've ever done this but not only did we give 10% of their bill back to them as a thank you for partnering with us, but we also did that for anything that some sponsors that also added something really nice to the swag bag and then we donated 10% of their bills also back to Children's Harbor. That's fantastic. And then same thing with the man Up Golf Tournament. They're bringing men back to church and kind of teaching them to be the head of their household and take care of their family, and you know, with the kind of underlying thing, with all the fighting that goes on on TV.

Drew DiAlberto:

how about in real life? We kind of take care of our own business and that'll take care of some of the bigger problems? So, and and you know what it was they. They fund an annual men's conference with this golf tournament, so they bring uh, I think it was like 300 people. They have some guest speakers and I would describe it as a.

Drew DiAlberto:

you know, leave the religious part of it out for a second, I would describe it and this is my friend Lawrence's description that I've stolen or borrowed, I guess, as it's like a full day and a half of motivational halftime speeches, okay, which it's pretty cool. I brought my dad and he got a huge value out of it. He loved it. Oh good, but yeah. So those are just a few of them. I could keep going, but I could list charities that we work with. The way that I actually wound up with Winner's Award Group was I had just started the On Par podcast and we talk about golf and business and networking on my podcast and I came up with the idea and then, serendipitously, I met Lou Chiera, the president of Winner's Award Group and one of the founders of Knicks Camp.

Chris Baker:

Oh yep.

Drew DiAlberto:

And he was at this event that a golf networking event, and he didn't really talk about winners award group much. He talked about the upcoming gala and golf tournament and I said hey look, why don't we do a live one with your board members? I'm not Joe Rogan by any stretch, but you know we'll get 80 or 90 or a hundred of your target audience that might participate in your gala or your golf tournament, and he was like I love it, let's do it and you know four, four lunches later it turned into let's start working together.

Chris Baker:

So that's amazing, you know it's.

Drew DiAlberto:

it's one of those things where I really do believe that the more you, more good you put out there, put out there, the more good happens to you. And whether that's your religion or your spirituality or whatever it is, I think to a certain extent we all believe in the go-giver mentality, which is like give as much as you can and, yes, it's going to come back, but that's not why you're doing it Exactly, yeah, exactly.

Chris Baker:

So what motivates you and the company to really work with nonprofits?

Drew DiAlberto:

Yeah, it's a great question, Chris. So Nick and Lou lost their father about 34 years ago to cancer and he was the commissioner of Parks and Recreation up in White Plains, new York, their hometown, and Recreation up in White Plains, new York, their hometown. So they were trying to kind of get a street named after him or something to raise awareness and that was a lot of red tape involved. So he met the woman from Lou, met the woman from the American Cancer Society at the time and I don't know what her position or role was, but you, she said, come to this lunch. She came to the lunch and they talked about.

Drew DiAlberto:

One of the things they talked about was sending kids with cancer to camp boggy creek up in eustis, florida, by orlando and it. This place is like the nicest summer camp you've ever seen. Their floors in their cabins look like the floor in my showroom in coconut creek. I mean, it's that nice. Seaworld donated a handicap accessible pool. The orlando magic built a basketball court.

Drew DiAlberto:

Uh, general schwartzkopf and paul newman started this camp and I guess every week they have a different theme, like one week they'll have kids with ms, one week they'll have kids with the cancer, which is nick's camp, which is the camp that we fund uh through through the chiara family foundation. And then you know they'll have uh, you know, pick a disease the next week and unfortunately there's plenty of childhood diseases to choose from. So you know, mental health for these kids and their families as they're going through, whatever kind of cancer they're going through, is just as important as their physical health or anything going on with them. So, yeah, I mean, there's crazy good stories you know about, like the kids take their bears that are knitted and sewn for them by volunteers home and they have a positive memory of the camp and the friends they made and the experience they had. So I thought it was really cool, which is why I said, hey, let's do our first live podcast at your charity event, because why the heck not?

Drew DiAlberto:

Yeah, no, yeah. That that's the reason that Lou and Nick want to partner with all these other charities is because they know they didn't raise $275,000 their first year, right? No, charity, most charities do not. No, but it takes time. Yeah, 30 or 40 different nonprofits as either clients or we support them, or both, because a lot of times you know they'll come to us for their pickleball tournament and we wind up participating in the tournament or sponsoring or you know.

Chris Baker:

You just wish you could do more, because now that you're in that world, there's so many different great nonprofits, especially down here in South Florida, which I'm sure keeps your show going yeah, well, I mean, we're just restarting and back up but at the same time but yeah, that's one of the reasons that we're trying to help, because there's so many non-profits out here that don't have the visibility. Yeah, they don't know where to turn and so hopefully we can point them in a direction like hey, this is a resource.

Chris Baker:

These are collaboration partners that are out here in the for-profit businesses that are willing to support and help you in any way possible. And then having that conversation. Like, let's open these doors and get more people talking and seeing how that they can build their business, strengthen it and then just keep them going Because the work that they're doing in the community is so valuable. Yeah, like there's not enough resources in the government and out here, just generally there. That's why non-profits start, because they have to fill the void. Yeah, that there's a need.

Drew DiAlberto:

Yeah, I mean every, every nonprofit story that I've heard comes down to we saw this problem. But I mean that's how for-profit companies start, too right. I mean we saw this problem and we decided that we could build a better mousetrap or fix the problem or, you know, explain something to people if their marketing's good enough. I guess that they didn't understand they needed until, you know, the pet rock came along and went on.

Drew DiAlberto:

TV or whatever but yeah, I mean that's yeah, businesses are made out of necessity and nonprofits are not an exception to that.

Chris Baker:

They're not, and a lot of the nonprofits, the people that they support, are the ones that actually can't afford the for-profit businesses, um, and so I think that's one of the you know the differences, or you know they're put in a situation that just it's not expected.

Drew DiAlberto:

they don't know, they don't expect to be there, but they have, and you still have to run them like they're a business right, that is 100 unless you've got all super delicate dedicated volunteers that are giving their time and expertise and energy and money, you're going to have to pay somebody. No matter how passionate they are, they still have to pay their bills.

Drew DiAlberto:

Exactly so you still have to look at the top line, the bottom line and all the other lines and we're an expense light item in our business right, you know hopefully the the return on investment for the stuff that we have is you know, people want to come back just because they got a great signature gift or you know something they could use that they use all the time, like a sherpa blanket or something oh you know it's. It's one of those things where you know what's your goal with what you're trying to do here. Are you just trying to?

Drew DiAlberto:

you know it's, it's one of those things where you know what's your goal with what you're trying to do here. Are you just trying to, you know, give away a pen so you have something to give away, or do you want something that's not going to get stuck in the ominous pen drawer? Or between the couch cushions or the seat cushions in the car.

Chris Baker:

I remember just a couple of weeks ago when I walked into your showroom yeah, that you guys have there I was blown away like there was just so many things. I'm like I would never throw that away. I would have that on my desk, I would have this here, this would be on my wall. Yeah, like there was just so many unique, different ways that you could do a plaque or a trophy or something that's valuable to give to a client as a thank you gift. There's just so many amazing things that you have and go there if you have. No, yeah, thank you. Thank you for the plug.

Drew DiAlberto:

I appreciate that. No, it is, and I told you before we met it's a must see.

Drew DiAlberto:

You got to see the place and you could go to winners award groupcom and look at it, but it's not the same and I know you did that because you're a you're a tech guy, so I know you looked at the website before you came, and I'm sure mo did too. But yeah it's, you got to come see it, which is why we'll do an event there every three to six months and, you know, invite some of our clients and referral partners and it's a fun. I mean, we have clients that come in and order for all of their events for the entire year and we only see them once a year, but they come in just because they want to still see us and hang out about around a bunch of cool awards, like you said um and it's a great back.

Drew DiAlberto:

It's a great backdrop for the podcast too. I mean it doesn't hurt doesn't hurt that the room is pretty much soundproof and uh, and you know, we got a bunch of cool stuff to look at, like you said.

Chris Baker:

So one of the other questions I have what are some of the key lessons from your company that you have learned, that you've fostered to successfully partnership with nonprofits?

Drew DiAlberto:

Give me that one more time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that one more time.

Chris Baker:

Yeah, yeah, that's so. What are the lessons that your company has learned and fostered to make partnerships successful with non-profits? I think?

Drew DiAlberto:

that probably one of the biggest lessons is that you know, just because you're a non-profit doesn't mean you're not going to get solicited by every potential support company, just like you're a for-profit business. Okay, and one of the things like we have that partnership program where we donate 10 of whatever their bill is back to the non-profit, because we want to show that we want to partner with you. We're not just looking to collect a check and then, you know, see a next event. Hopefully it's more of a hey look, let us bring some value, let us give you some cool ideas that might actually give meaning to whatever you're giving away or or selling in your corporate store. Right now we're doing a couple of breweries. We're actually creating all the merch for their customs, for their, for their, for their customers, for their stores for their for their brewery, where they get the little gift shop there.

Drew DiAlberto:

So whether it be that. But the other important thing is you have to share an interest, the people that are sitting on boards that I've been involved with different nonprofits. Some of them just are there for the title and the name and they can market it on their website that they're a board member of a charity, but I found that a lot of them don't do a darn thing to help the non-profit. They'll give you their opinion and you know at every meeting and and, but I mean you look at them and go like, what are you actually doing to help this charity?

Chris Baker:

Right so.

Drew DiAlberto:

I think that's got to be one of the biggest, and I've never worked for a nonprofit full time before just volunteered and now I'm on the board of Nick's Camp officially, like a couple weeks ago.

Chris Baker:

Congratulations. Thank you.

Drew DiAlberto:

So you know I've been an ambassador. You know I do the 100 hole challenge for for first tee where I'm the commissioner, and we get like 30 people to play a hundred holes of golf in one day and use it for a fundraiser. So you know I've done that type, those types of things. But this will be my first board seat, so actually.

Chris Baker:

That's actually a good segue. Like I know, you guys talk about nicks and now you're going on the board. What pushed you to help be on the board? Because that's actually you know well so.

Drew DiAlberto:

So when lou made the announcement, and I hadn't met lou before this day, but when he made the announcement that he's got this gala and this golf tournament and they do it at broken sound country club where they hold the champions league of the pga, they the timber tech champion.

Drew DiAlberto:

I mean, this is places yeah, you know six stars if it gets one kind of place okay and you know it's a two-day event and it raises three hundred thousand dollars and they they wrote a check for over two hundred and fifty thousand dollars last year and built a ball field scoreboard for Nick's field of fun, which will forever be there now. So there's now a scoreboard and like a ball field that they didn't have before because of part of that check.

Drew DiAlberto:

And that's for all of the kids that go there to enjoy not just cancer week. But when, nick, when Lou got up and said, you know, hey, we start, and of course you know cancer's touched everybody, right, I mean I've had family members and friends with breast cancer and testicular cancer and prostate cancer and all different types of things. So, yeah, I mean it touches a heart string, if you will, you know, lung cancer and different things like that. So when I walked up to him I was like, hey, partially self-serving, we want more ears on our podcast, but let's do it by helping your charity. And then I got involved over the last year, year and a half, since I'm working with these guys now full-time, it just became like why would I not want to be on this board, kind of thing. That's amazing, that's amazing.

Chris Baker:

That's amazing. So tell us a little bit more about NICS.

Drew DiAlberto:

Yeah, so in addition to sending 150 kids to summer camp for this week of Cancer Week to Camp Boggy Creek, we also are able to do scholarships for the kids that go into remission or recover from cancer and then when they go to college or grad school. These guys have actually been doing this so long that some of the kids that they helped when they were campers are now oncologists or social workers helping little kids with the same cancer that they had when they were little kids.

Chris Baker:

So it's all come back full circle.

Drew DiAlberto:

Yeah, 31 years now. I think this is the year 31 for for Nick's camp. We also get a grant from the Florida Panthers to teach kids with cancer how to ice skate.

Drew DiAlberto:

And then a partnership with I mentioned the first T of Broward where we can bring them in and teach them golf as well. It's like a shortened program because they're going through chemotherapy a lot of times or other treatments, so it's not a nine-week program like the normal program. It might be like a six-week program or something like that. So as it's grown it's not just sending them to camp anymore. It's now the kids that went to the camp are making a difference for kids that are dealing with the same thing.

Drew DiAlberto:

they did so it was I mean, it was one of those no brainer situations where it's like there's no downside to helping these guys with this. So, and you know, they want, they want more grants, they want more corporate sponsors. So I'll be talking to you, chris, because now you got all those resources for us.

Chris Baker:

That. That's where I'm hoping to go with all of this.

Drew DiAlberto:

Yeah.

Chris Baker:

So what is your long-term vision of how your company is gonna collaborate with more nonprofits?

Drew DiAlberto:

well, I think what we're going to add this year and I think I shared this with you already is I'm starting my own separate nonprofit yeah, you did mention that, so yeah, so in january, uh, there's going to be a couple of things.

Drew DiAlberto:

One thing is one thing that we'll do and it'll be up it'll be a non-profit to help other non-profits, kind of like your show. So the idea is, when we do the 100-hole challenge, it may not just be for First Tee anymore. Maybe you can come in from Children's Harbor or 4Kids or man.

Drew DiAlberto:

Up or any one of these other Girl Power, rocks or any of these other nonprofits. And of course we'll start with our clients and friends first and say, hey, look, you know what we're going to do it as a real contest, charity versus charity. So you send, you know, pick a charity, chris, pick a charity, mo, pick a charity, you know, rachel. And then you play your hundred holes and 90% of the money you raise goes to the charity of your choice and the other 10% is to the main fund.

Drew DiAlberto:

And the other thing is, from these events, a lot of these nonprofits will have leftover merchandise, where you know, let's say, they had 120 golfers for a golf event and only 96 showed up. So now they've got, you know, 34 custom speakers with a picture of the golf course and a man Up logo, for example, in the middle of it, and people have these on their golf bag and they're like, where did you get this? And they want to buy it. And in order to keep the charities raising the money from the products they've already got sitting in a storage facility, most likely, or one of the board members garage, we actually have a platform being set up right now where they can put those products on the site.

Drew DiAlberto:

And again, 90% of the money you know, 90% of the money is going to go back to the charity and the other 10% will go to the general fund. So it's going to kind of, you know, add to the hundred hole challenge, which I've already been kind of doing for five years. And then also, uh, you know, fixes a problem that some of our non, like you said, fix a problem right, they've got these really nice, you know, signature gifts that are just, you know, a speaker, a hat, a t-shirt, a quarter zip, all of these really nice things, and it's like, well, you're gonna have board members that want them, you're gonna have ambassadors that want them correct you're gonna have people that like golf but didn't play in that particular tournament because they were traveling, or they, they really wanted to be at your gala but they couldn't make it to the gala because they you know, their, their wife was sick and they were in the hospital that day.

Drew DiAlberto:

So the idea is, why would you want your stuff to just sit there when it's got value and let us just do it for you? Because they don't want to pay another person on full-time staff to do?

Chris Baker:

you know no to do. That I mean, and that comes down to your bottom line. You got to make sure that that's something you can afford, and most nonprofits are not at that space.

Drew DiAlberto:

So 2025 is the year we ramp it up with those two extra things.

Chris Baker:

That's amazing. I think that's going to be very valuable for a lot of nonprofits. We're going to have some fun with it too.

Drew DiAlberto:

Because we're already packing and shipping stuff back there every day anyway. So what's an extra 30 speakers or 20 hats or whatever? It is so and and again, like you said, we're helping the non-profits that we're already friends with them. We're already doing, you know, we're already going to their events, we're already sponsoring their charities in some way or whatever we can do. So having them on the podcast and let them, you know, bring awareness to their events, and it's not just golf tournaments anymore.

Drew DiAlberto:

We'll, you know we'll talk about other stuff too, but yeah originally because golf is part of the part of the shtick so we're talking about your podcast.

Chris Baker:

Tell me more. What is your podcast?

Drew DiAlberto:

so the on par podcast? Uh, I was. I was shooting some videos to help the the fundraisers for the 100-hole challenge, and Sean Kicker, my golf coach, my friend, the director well, now former director of First Tee of Broward says man, drew, you're doing great at these videos, you should have a podcast. And I'm like, yeah, okay, I should have a podcast. And he goes. No, he goes. Really Like I think have a podcast, he goes. No, he goes. Really I think people will listen he goes. We could even make it like I'm the golf knowledge and you're the guy asking the questions. Then we can talk about what's going on in the world of golf and all this other. I said well, the only other thing I can talk about is how good it is for networking. He goes oh, we can add that Now it's like we should have a podcast. So you know, that's kind of evolved. Uh, sean's actually just recently taken a new uh change in his career, so he's going to be a guest on the podcast when he can.

Drew DiAlberto:

Okay uh, but I'm going to keep it going. We usually have guests on there to talk about golf and business and networking and if there's a charity golf event coming up, we want to promote it on the on par podcast and we won't charge you for that privilege so, uh, it actually led.

Drew DiAlberto:

I had vince bell, who was running the pompano capas golf tournament with some other, uh, pompano capas members, and, uh, he and the president of the chapter came in for a podcast and vince and I just clicked amazingly. So now we started a second podcast called podcast twins yes, I have heard of that, and podcast twins, uh, is much more broad.

Drew DiAlberto:

We will talk about anything. I think you know the second or third episode, vince asked me if I got my COVID jabs and that, you know, went down a rabbit hole conversation. And then another one. You know I had heard Vince mention that he didn't think the moon landing was real. So I think we were on a golf course when he said that and I was like let's talk about that. So I don't know, maybe next we'll talk about god or who knows what other wildly let's say can be deemed as controversial topic we'll come up with next fair we we have an episode coming out, and maybe it'll already be out by the time this this episode launches.

Drew DiAlberto:

Uh, but he came to my house and made a studio in my kitchen and we cooked deep dish pizza together. That's not a joke, that's a real episode coming up on podcast twins.

Chris Baker:

That's awesome yeah um, so a couple. I got a couple more questions, yeah please and the first one actually is right before we wrap up what is one piece of advice or inspiration that you can leave to our audience today?

Drew DiAlberto:

You know I would say that especially for the younger audience. I used to be in headhunting and recruiting for quite a number of years and you know I noticed that the younger the candidate, the less nonprofit work they were involved in in general, and I think that the best possible way for you to network your way into the right job is working with nonprofits.

Chris Baker:

Ooh, that's a good piece of advice, Because you're gonna, you know let's say you're passionate about saving stray dogs.

Drew DiAlberto:

If you get involved in a saving stray dogs charity, you're going to meet other people that are really passionate about saving stray dogs and you're going to get to like them faster and they'll like you faster and they'll want to help you. And when you need your first job or your second job because your first job sucks, then you can ask your network. And I really believe that the best way to build a network of like-minded people if you're not playing golf with them is get involved in a nonprofit you care about. And I mean look, these kids need service hours to graduate from high school. Anyway, you might as well go do something you enjoy right, you gotta pick something that's actually I like.

Drew DiAlberto:

I love basketball. When I was a kid, that's all I played, and when I realized I was too short, too slow and not big enough to play in college, I I started coaching youth basketball. I coached seven and eight yearolds when I was in high school and that's how I got my service hours and I thought it was a blast and I made friends with some of the parents and it was a great opportunity and I think one of them actually introduced me to somebody that was going to give me a job opportunity at a certain point. So don't apply to 100,000 jobs a day. Go do some good work. And it's like they tell you go do something you love and the money will come which we'll see if that's true or not. But it's one of those things where it's like go do stuff with people that you think you're going to be around, because they're going to think the same way you do and like the same things you do, and and then you know, build the relationships it opens up doors.

Chris Baker:

All right, so one of the last, uh, so thank you so much for coming on the show. Thank you so one last question how do they contact you if they want to work with Winners Award?

Drew DiAlberto:

Yeah, if you want to do something with Winners Award Group, or NixCamp for that matter? Winners Award Group, we're right in Coconut Creek. You can go to winnersawardgroupcom. The phone number, my email, is simple. It's drew at winnersawardgroupcom so I'm easy to track down. I'm also the only Andrew D d alberto on the earth so if you want to google me, you'll probably learn more than you want to, but you know I can't hide if it's if my name's on there.

Drew DiAlberto:

I'm the only one. What's the phone number that they could reach you at? Uh 754-207-2906 for call or text.

Chris Baker:

Perfect. Yeah, Well, again, thank you so much for coming on the show. and we're here to help, you know, make a difference in the nonprofit community. One collaboration at a time.

Drew DiAlberto:

I appreciate it. Thank you, Chris. Thank you.

Chris Baker:

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